Comments on: End the charade and own the facts: It’s War with Islam! http://foehammer.net/2007/01/end-the-charade-and-own-the-facts-its-war-with-islam.html Anti-jihad, Anti-Islamofascism, Anti-Islam, Pro-West, Pro-USA: Helping spread politically incorrect truth before the demise of Western Civilization becomes a reality. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:11:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 by: A_plague_on_both_houses http://foehammer.net/2007/01/end-the-charade-and-own-the-facts-its-war-with-islam.html#comment-268 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:50:44 +0000 http://foehammer.net/2007/01/end-the-charade-and-own-the-facts-its-war-with-islam.html#comment-268 Foehammer, I don't beat around the bush over at Jihadwatch.org when I want to say 'Islam is the problem.' I think jihadwatch.org adminstrators try to keep the forums clear of genocidal blanket condemnations of all those in the Islamic world. It's not the people, it's the ideas in their heads. It's not racism - it's an ideology. Sometimes posters on jihadwatch go too far and call for the heads of all muslims... that's not good or right. I do think that no attempt will be made to silence statements like 'moderates may be Islamic, but Islam itself is not moderate' Here's what I posted on jihadwatch concerning the ex-Mossad Chief's comments: <b>Further, I don't think that anything, even global nuclear, chemical and biological atacks, will alter the mindset of either the leadership or the PC intelligentsia that seem to hold so much sway in Western countries.</b> <b>In my view, nothing will make them realise that Islam itself is the problem. To them, it will forever be but a few violent misinterpreters of the religion of peace who are causing the trouble.</b> To do otherwise would be to destroy their own belief system. Posted by: Anthony I would agree. When the attacks come these PC people will be swept aside by others with different messages in their voices. People seldom are honest and strong enough to admit they have been wrong and denounce their old belief systems voluntarily. Muslims, PC'ers, Communists and the Joneses next door are all the same in this aspect of human nature. Stubborness, lack of honesty and rationality and inertia all prevent people from changing their perspectives when confronted with damning evidence. Nothing new in that sad observation. It will take a series of WMD attacks in American cities to settle this and it will take the fall of one or two Eurabian states to settle this. The sad thing is we'll probably need both of these events. It will take a tremendous amount of jihadi wind for us to turnabout and set a new course. But, to paraphrase Dylan, 'It doesn't take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.' The question is how much wind will it take to true up our course? It's not going to turn out well. Those leading us today will be put into the category of the Neville Chamberlains and will swept aside by the Churchills and Pattons that will rise to the occassion. They are out there. We wonder why they haven't arrived on the scene yet. Think about what it took to bring on the necessary conditions seventy years ago. We're not in that place yet, but we will be soon enough. Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses Foehammer, I don’t beat around the bush over at Jihadwatch.org when I want to say ‘Islam is the problem.’ I think jihadwatch.org adminstrators try to keep the forums clear of genocidal blanket condemnations of all those in the Islamic world. It’s not the people, it’s the ideas in their heads. It’s not racism - it’s an ideology. Sometimes posters on jihadwatch go too far and call for the heads of all muslims… that’s not good or right.

I do think that no attempt will be made to silence statements like ‘moderates may be Islamic, but Islam itself is not moderate’

Here’s what I posted on jihadwatch concerning the ex-Mossad Chief’s comments:

Further, I don’t think that anything, even global nuclear, chemical and biological atacks, will alter the mindset of either the leadership or the PC intelligentsia that seem to hold so much sway in Western countries.

In my view, nothing will make them realise that Islam itself is the problem. To them, it will forever be but a few violent misinterpreters of the religion of peace who are causing the trouble.

To do otherwise would be to destroy their own belief system.

Posted by: Anthony

I would agree. When the attacks come these PC people will be swept aside by others with different messages in their voices.

People seldom are honest and strong enough to admit they have been wrong and denounce their old belief systems voluntarily. Muslims, PC’ers, Communists and the Joneses next door are all the same in this aspect of human nature. Stubborness, lack of honesty and rationality and inertia all prevent people from changing their perspectives when confronted with damning evidence. Nothing new in that sad observation.

It will take a series of WMD attacks in American cities to settle this and it will take the fall of one or two Eurabian states to settle this. The sad thing is we’ll probably need both of these events. It will take a tremendous amount of jihadi wind for us to turnabout and set a new course. But, to paraphrase Dylan, ‘It doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.’ The question is how much wind will it take to true up our course?

It’s not going to turn out well. Those leading us today will be put into the category of the Neville Chamberlains and will swept aside by the Churchills and Pattons that will rise to the occassion. They are out there. We wonder why they haven’t arrived on the scene yet. Think about what it took to bring on the necessary conditions seventy years ago. We’re not in that place yet, but we will be soon enough.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses

]]> by: Foehammer http://foehammer.net/2007/01/end-the-charade-and-own-the-facts-its-war-with-islam.html#comment-265 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:47:23 +0000 http://foehammer.net/2007/01/end-the-charade-and-own-the-facts-its-war-with-islam.html#comment-265 I don't think there's anything simplistic about that argument at all, Islamsforlosers. I think you're right: that if our enemy was more conventional and well-armed, we'd be taking them more seriously. It is and has been the full intent of the Islamic world in the modern age to use every covert tactic and guerilla method against us though -- based on the sound strategic grounds that it will absolutely keep our Western nations off-balance and from seeing the true enemy clearly. Our own governments do more damage to us than the enemy on any given day, because they refuse to present the truth to all of us. Well, the truth is coming to get us whether we like it or not. And thus, Foehammer's Anvil came into being -- out of my own personal frustration with the powers-that-be and the idiotic press agencies that can't report the facts because they are so hellbent on misrepresenting the aspirations of the civilized nations that they live and work in in order to further the ends of the "enlightened barbarians" that make for such good "reporting" and I use that term very loosely. I don’t think there’s anything simplistic about that argument at all, Islamsforlosers. I think you’re right: that if our enemy was more conventional and well-armed, we’d be taking them more seriously. It is and has been the full intent of the Islamic world in the modern age to use every covert tactic and guerilla method against us though — based on the sound strategic grounds that it will absolutely keep our Western nations off-balance and from seeing the true enemy clearly. Our own governments do more damage to us than the enemy on any given day, because they refuse to present the truth to all of us.

Well, the truth is coming to get us whether we like it or not. And thus, Foehammer’s Anvil came into being — out of my own personal frustration with the powers-that-be and the idiotic press agencies that can’t report the facts because they are so hellbent on misrepresenting the aspirations of the civilized nations that they live and work in in order to further the ends of the “enlightened barbarians” that make for such good “reporting” and I use that term very loosely.

]]> by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS http://foehammer.net/2007/01/end-the-charade-and-own-the-facts-its-war-with-islam.html#comment-264 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:32:02 +0000 http://foehammer.net/2007/01/end-the-charade-and-own-the-facts-its-war-with-islam.html#comment-264 Perhaps the Western world would see the Islamic threat better had the Ottoman Empire somehow survived to the present day, armed with nuclear weapons. During the Cold War the USSR was a big target that people could look at as a menace because of its size. Looking at a map today there isn't a single member of the ummah that rivals the US in size. This is a simplistic notion I know but I think a lot of people simply look at Iran and think "pipsqueak"-one that simply wouldn't dare to strike at the US. Well, it dares and even though it won't wipe out the entire nation it could, through its agents, cause severe damage to it. Plus, it CAN wipe out Israel and if that were to happen the US would have to retaliate. Too many people just don't get it and it will take something worse than 9/11 to have people get it. Perhaps the Western world would see the Islamic threat better had the Ottoman Empire somehow survived to the present day, armed with nuclear weapons. During the Cold War the USSR was a big target that people could look at as a menace because of its size. Looking at a map today there isn’t a single member of the ummah that rivals the US in size. This is a simplistic notion I know but I think a lot of people simply look at Iran and think “pipsqueak”-one that simply wouldn’t dare to strike at the US. Well, it dares and even though it won’t wipe out the entire nation it could, through its agents, cause severe damage to it. Plus, it CAN wipe out Israel and if that were to happen the US would have to retaliate. Too many people just don’t get it and it will take something worse than 9/11 to have people get it.

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