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U.S. targeting Islam, many Muslims in poll say

Amazingly, no matter how much we perceive that our governments are appeasing Muslims and denying the global conflict with Islam, the Muslims themselves are hellbent on portraying themselves as victims again. Propaganda is well utilized by our Islamic enemies, I’ll give them credit where it’s due. They are masters of deceit and wordplay, playing possum and playing the martyr. It’s worked for Islamists for centuries.

Unfortunately, it won’t work forever and I certainly mean to be a part of that cure. Truth shall prevail and Islamofascist scum can cry more.

Oh, my! Did I just offend someone?

Some more lies, damn lies and statistics for this week:

WASHINGTON — Majorities in Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan and Indonesia say undermining Islam is a likely goal of U.S. foreign policy and many are unconvinced that Al Qaeda committed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to a poll released Tuesday in Washington.

The survey by the University of Maryland’s Program on International Policy Attitudes questioned 1,000 or more people in each country. A majority of those surveyed in Morocco and in Indonesia, which has the largest Muslim population of any country, said it is a goal of the U.S. war on terror to “spread Christianity” in the Middle East.

“While U.S. leaders may frame the conflict as a war on terrorism, people in the Islamic world clearly perceive the U.S. as being at war with Islam,” program director Steven Kull said in a statement.

Well, look at that — many Muslims and I have something in common. Who’d have thunk it? But who started this war if it wasn’t Muhammad? Answer me that, honest Muslims. I think they need to stop with the half-truths. The war isn’t just between Islam and the United States. If it was there wouldn’t be bombings in the Philippines, India, Spain, England, Africa, et al. Really, Islamists, your continuing audacious twisting of the truth is bordering on a mass comedy routine.

Since 9/11, President George W. Bush has maintained that the United States targets only those who commit violence in the name of Islam, not the religion itself.

In Egypt, 92% of those surveyed said they believe it is a probable or definite U.S. goal to “weaken and divide the Islamic world.” In Morocco, 78% of those questioned said they agreed, as did 73% of those in Indonesia and urban Pakistan.

Only 28% of Egyptians, 26% of Indonesians, 35% of Moroccans and 2% of urban Pakistanis said they believe Al Qaeda was behind 9/11, the poll found.

Thirty-eight percent of Egyptians blamed the United States or Israel for the attacks, as did 20% of Indonesians, 31% of Moroccans and 28% of urban Pakistanis.

Conducted between Dec. 9 and Feb. 15 using in-home interviews, the surveys have a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points, except for Pakistan, where the margin is 4 points.

While urban and rural people were polled in Morocco, Indonesia and Pakistan, the survey didn’t report findings from rural Pakistan because people there were unfamiliar with many of the issues in the survey, according to the pollsters.

Spreading Christianity in the Middle East was probably or definitely a U.S. goal, said 67% of Moroccans, 64% of urban Pakistanis and 61% of Indonesians.

The survey group said it wasn’t allowed to ask the question in Egypt.

Barbarism. That’s what we are faced with. Beware any people that seek to kill you in the name of “God”, especially when God has nothing to do with it.

 


 

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  1. 1 ISLAMSFORLOSERS  | country flag 
      
    Apr 25th, 2007 at 8:23 pm

    The results of this poll come as no surprise. It really doesn’t matter, because even if the US put a chicken in every Muslim’s pot throughout the whole ummah the US would still be the Great Satan. Pretty ironic though, because many countries would have used an iron fist on the ummah had they suffered an attack like 9/11. Despite 9/11, the US has been very soft on the ummah and before and since then it has been insanely generous in taking in more and more Muslims and handing out billions of dollars. But it’s never enough for ingrates such as these and it never will be. The hell with them.

  2. 2 Next Stop Lauderdale  | country flag 
      
    Apr 26th, 2007 at 3:02 am

    Funny, I wonder who they think is targeting their fellow Muslims in Iraq with those car bombs daily. Don’t hear them complaining about that much. . . . . . . stevereenie

  3. 3 DE Grimes  | country flag 
      
    Apr 26th, 2007 at 8:15 am

    Read this… Just continuing to do my part to stir the pot and incite observation
    and conversation.

    > SOME OF YOU ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THAT NEARLY EVERY FAMILY
    IN
    > AMERICA WAS GROSSLY AFFECTED BY WW II . MOST OF YOU DON’T REMEMBER
    THE
    > RATIONING OF MEAT, SHOES, GASOLINE, AND SUGAR. NO TIRES FOR OUR
    AUTOMOBILES,
    > AND A SPEED LIMIT OF 35 MILES AN HOUR ON THE ROAD, NOT TO MENTION, NO
    NEW
    > AUTOMOBILES. READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD REACT TO BEING
    TAKEN
    > OVER BY FOREIGN POWERS IN 2008.
    >
    >
    > This is an EXCELLENT essay . Well thought out and presented.
    >
    > Historical Significance for today’s world:
    >
    > Sixty-three years ago, Nazi Germany had overrun almost all of Europe
    and
    > hammered England to the verge of bankruptcy and defeat. The Nazis had
    sunk
    > more than 400 British ships in their convoys between England and
    America
    > taking food and war materials
    >
    > At that time the US was in an isolationist, pacifist mood, and most
    > Americans wanted nothing to do with the European or the Asian war
    >
    > Then along came Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941 , and in outrage
    Congress
    > unanimously declared war on Japan , and the following day on Germany
    , who
    > had not yet attacked us . It was a dicey thing . We had few allies
    >
    > France was not an ally, as the Vichy government of France quickly
    aligned
    > itself with its German occupiers . Germany was certainly not an ally,
    as
    > Hitler was intent on setting up a Thousand Year Reich in Europe.
    Japan was
    > not an ally, a s it was well on its way to owning and controlling all
    of
    > Asia.
    >
    > Together, Japan and Germany had long-range plans of invading Canada
    and
    > Mexico , as launching pads to get into the United States over our
    northern
    > and southern borders, after they finished gaining control of Asia and
    > Europe.
    >
    > America ’s only allies then were England , Ireland , Scotland ,
    Canada ,
    > Australia, and Russia . That was about it All of Europe, from Norway
    to
    > Italy (except Russia in the East) was already under the Nazi heel .
    >
    > The US was certainly not prepared for war. The US had drastically
    > downgraded most of its military forces after WW I because of the
    depression,
    > so that at the outbreak of WW II, Army units were training with
    broomsticks
    > because they didn’t have guns, and cars with “tank” p ainted on the
    doors
    > because they didn’t have real tanks A huge chunk of our Navy had just
    been
    > sunk or damaged at Pearl Harbor.
    >
    > Britain had already gone bankrupt, saved only by the donat ion of
    $600
    > million in gold bullion in the Bank of England (that was actually the
    > property of Belgium ) given by Belgium to England to carry on the war
    when
    > Belgium was overrun by Hitler (a little known fact).
    >
    > Actually, Belgium surrendered on one day, because it was unable to
    oppose
    > the German invasion, and the Germans bombed Brussels into rubble the
    next
    > day just to prove they could
    >
    > Britain had already been holding out for two years in the face of
    staggering
    > losses and the near decimation of i ts Royal Air Force in the Battle
    of
    > Britain, and was saved from being overrun by Germany only because
    Hitler
    > made the mistake of thinking the Brits were a relatively minor threat
    that
    > could be dealt with later. Hitler, first turned his attention to
    Russia, in
    > the late summer of 1940 at a time when England was on the verge of
    collapse.
    >
    > Ironically, Russia saved America ’s butt by putting up a desperate
    fight for
    > two years, until the US got geared up to begin hammerin g away at
    Germany .
    >
    > Russia lost something like 24,000,000 people in the sieges of
    Stalingrad and
    > Moscow alone . . 90% of them from cold and starvation, mostly
    civilians, but
    > also more than a 1,000,000 soldiers
    >
    > Had Russia surrendered, Hitler would ha ve been able to focus his
    entire war
    > effort against the Brits, then America. If that had happened, the
    Nazis
    > could possibly have won the war .
    >
    > All of this has been brought out to illustrate that turning points in
    > history are often dicey things. Now, we find ourselves at another
    one of
    > those key moments in history.
    >
    > There is a very dangerous minority in Islam that either has, or
    wants, and
    > may soon have, the ability to deliver small nuclear, biological, or
    chemical
    > weapons, almost anywhere in the world .
    >
    > The Jihadis, the militant Muslims, are basically Nazis in Kaffiyahs
    – they
    > believe that Islam, a radically conservative form of Wahhabi Islam,
    should
    > own and control the Middle East first, th en Europe, then the world.
    To
    > them, all who do not bow to their will of thinking should be killed,
    > enslaved, or subjugated . They want to f inish the Holocaust, destroy
    Israel
    > , and purge the world of Jews . This is their mantra . (goal)
    >
    > There is also a civil war raging in the Middle East — for the most
    part not
    > a hot war, but a war of ideas. Islam is having its Inquisition and
    its
    > Reformation, but it is not yet known which side will win — the
    Inquisitors,
    > or the Reformationists.
    >
    > If the Inquisition wins, then the Wahhabis, the Jihadis, will control
    the
    > Middle East, the OPEC oil, and the US , European, and Asian
    economies.
    >
    > The techno-industrial economies will be at the mercy of OPEC — not
    an OPEC
    > dominated by the educated, rational Saudis of today, but an OPEC
    dominated
    > by the Jihadis. Do you want gas in your car? Do you want heating
    oil next
    > winter? Do you want the dollar to be worth anything? You had better
    hope
    > the Jiha d, the Muslim Inquisition, loses, and the Islamic
    Reformation wins.
    >
    >
    > If the Reformation movement wins, that is, the moderate Muslims who
    believe
    > that Islam can respect and tolerate other religions, live in peace
    with the
    > rest of the world, and move out of the 10th century into the 21st,
    then the
    > troubles in the Middle East will eventually fade away. A moderate
    and
    > prosperous Middle East will emerge.
    >
    > We have to help the Reformation win, and to do that we have to fight
    the
    > Inquisition, i.e., the Wahhabi movement, the Jihad, Al Qaeda and the
    Islamic
    > terrorist movements. We have to do it somewhere. We can’t do it
    everywhere
    > at once. We have created a focal point for the battle at a time and
    place
    > of our choosing . . . . . . . . in Iraq . Not in New York , not in
    London ,
    > or Paris or Berlin , but in Iraq, where we are doing two important
    things.
    >
    > (1) We deposed Saddam Hussein. Whether Saddam Hussein was directly
    involved
    > in the 9 /11 terrorist attack or not, it is undisputed that Saddam
    has been
    > actively supporting the terrorist movement for decades Saddam is a
    > terrorist! Saddam is, or was, a weapon of mass destruction,
    responsible
    > for the deaths of probably more than a 1,000,000 Iraqis and 2,000,000
    > Iranians .
    >
    > (2) We created a battle, a confrontation, a flash point, with Islamic
    > terrorism in Iraq. We have focused the battle. We are killing bad
    people,
    > and the ones we get there we won’t have to get here. We also have a
    good
    > shot at creating a democratic, peaceful Iraq, which will be a
    catalyst for
    > democratic change in the rest of the Middle East, and an outpost for
    a
    > stabilizing American military presence in the Middle East for as long
    as it
    > is needed .
    >
    > WW II, the war with the Japanese and German Nazis, really began with
    a
    > “whimper” in 1928. It did not begin with Pearl Harbor . It began
    with the
    > Japanese invasion of China. It was a war for fourt een years before
    the US
    > joined it. It officially ended in 1945 — a 17 year war — and was
    followed
    > by another decade of US occupation in Germany and Japan to get those
    > countries reconstructed and running on their own a gain . . a 27 year
    war.
    >
    > WW II cost the United States an amount equal to approximately a fu ll
    year’s
    > GDP — adjusted for inflation, equal to about $12 trillion dollars.
    WW II
    > cost America more than 400,000 soldiers killed in action, and nearly
    100,000
    > still missing in action.
    >
    > The Iraq war has, so far, cost the United States about
    $160,000,000,000,
    > which is roughly what the 9/11 terrorist attack cost New York. It
    has also
    > cost about 3,000 American lives, which is roughly equivilant to lives
    that
    > the Jihad killed (within the United State s) in the 9/11 terrorist
    attack .
    >
    > The cost of not fighting and winning WW II would have been
    unimaginably
    > greater — a world dominated by Japanese Imperialism and German
    Nazism .
    >
    > This is not a 60-Minutes TV show, or a 2-hour movie in which
    everything
    > comes out okay . The real world is not like that. It is messy,
    uncertain,
    > and sometimes bloody and ugly. It always has been, and probably
    always will
    > be .
    > The bottom line is that we will have to deal with Islamic terrorism
    until we
    > defeat it, whenever that is. It will not go away if we ignore it .
    >
    > If the US can create a reasonably democratic and stable Iraq, then we
    have
    > an ally, like England , in the Middle East, a platform, from which we
    can
    > work to help modernize and moderate the Middle East. The history of
    the
    > world is the clash between the forces of relative civility and
    civilization,
    > and the barbarians clamoring at the gates to conquer the world.
    >
    > The Iraq War is merely another battle in this ancient and never
    ending war.
    > Now, for the first time ever, the barbarians are about to get nuclear
    > weapons. Unless some body prevent s them from getting them.
    > We have four options:
    >
    > 1 . We can defeat the Jihad now, before it gets nuclear weapons.
    >
    > 2 . We can fight the Jihad later, after it gets nuclear weapons
    (which may
    > be as early as next year, if Iran ’s progress on nuclear weapons is
    what
    > Iran claims it is).
    >
    > 3 . We can surrender to the Jihad and accept its dominance in the
    Middle
    > East now; in Europe in the next few years or decades, and ultimately
    in
    > America.
    >
    > OR
    >
    > 4 . We can stand down now, and pick up the fight later when the Jihad
    is
    > more widespread and better armed, perhaps after the Jihad has
    dominated
    > France and Germany and possibly most of t he rest of Europe. It
    will, of
    > course, be more dangerous, more expensive, and much bloodier.
    >
    > If you oppose this war, I hope you like the idea that your children,
    or
    > grandchildren, may live in an Islamic America under the Mullahs and
    the
    > Sharia, an America that resembles Iran today.
    >
    > The history of the world is the history of civilization clashes,
    cultural
    > clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and
    > civilization should be like, and the most determined always win.
    >
    > Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win . The
    pacifists
    > always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them .
    >
    > Remember, perspective is every thing, and America ’s schools teach
    too
    > little history for perspective to be clear, especially in the young
    American
    > mind.
    >
    > The Cold War lasted from about 1947 at least until the Berlin Wall
    came down
    > in 1989; forty-two years!
    >
    > Europe spent the first half of the 19th century fighting Napoleon,
    and from
    > 1870 to 1945 fighting Germany !
    >
    > World War II began in 1928, lasted 17 years, plus a ten year
    occupation, and
    > the US still has troops in Germany and Japan . World War II resulted
    in the
    > death of more than 50,000,000 people, maybe more than 100,000,000
    people,
    > depending on which estimates you accept.
    >
    > The US has taken more than 3,000 k illed in action in Iraq.. The US
    took
    > more than 4,000 killed in action on the morning of June 6, 1944 , the
    first
    > day of the Normandy Invasion to rid Europe of Nazi Imperialism.
    >
    > In WW II the US averaged 2,000 KIA a week — for four years. Most of
    the
    > individual battles of WW II lost more Americans than the entire Iraq
    war has
    > done so far
    >
    > The stakes are at least as high . . A world dominated by
    representative
    > governments with civil rights, human rights, and personal freedoms .
    . or a
    > world dominated by a radical Islamic Wahhabi movement, by the Jihad,
    under
    > the Mullahs and the Sharia (Islamic law) .
    >
    > It’s difficult to understand why the average American does not grasp
    this.
    > They favor human rights, civil rights, liberty and freedom, but
    evidently
    > not for Iraqis.
    >
    > “Peace Activists” always seem to demonstrate here in America , where
    it’s
    > safe.
    >
    > Why don’t we see Peace Activist demonstrating in Iran , Syria , Iraq
    , Sudan
    > , North Korea , in the places that really need peace activism the
    most?
    > I’ll tell you why! They would be killed!
    >
    > The liberal mentality is supposed to favor human rights, civil
    rights,
    > democracy, multicu lturalism, diversity, etc . , but if the Jihad
    wins,
    > wherever the Jihad wins, it is the end of civil rights, human rights,
    > democracy, multiculturalism, diversity, etc.
    >
    > Americans who oppose the liberation of Iraq are coming down on the
    side of
    > their own worst enemy!
    >

    Raymond S . Kraft is a writer living in Northern California that has
    studied the Middle Eastern culture and religion.

    >
    > Please consider passing along copies of this article to friends and
    students
    > as it contains information about our American past that is very
    meaningful
    > today — history about America that very likely is mostly unknown by
    many of
    > us (and our instr uctors, too). By being denied the facts of our
    history,
    > we are at a deci ded disadvantage when it comes to reasoning and
    thinking
    > through the issues of today. We are prime targets for misinformation
    > campaigns beamed at enlisting us in liberal causes and beliefs that
    are
    > special interest agenda driven. I am not advocating war, just wanting
    to
    > understand the greater picture and preserving our country’s
    independence.

  4. 4 Sheila  | country flag 
      
    Apr 26th, 2007 at 7:02 pm

    DE Grimes is absolutely correct in his words above, and I remember just about everything he mentions above! My husband volunteered for the Navy at age 17 to spend the next 3.5 years of his teen years/early 20’s in the bloody Pacific theatre. One of his friends was blown off the Arizona when it was bombed in Pearl Harbor 12/07/1941 with a loss of some 1,000 souls not to mention the Utah and other ships docked so conveniently within Pearl Harbor. Not too many years ago we had a chance to visit what’s left of the Arizona, merely the stacks visible under water. Yes, I remember when shoes were rationed, all canned foods, all fresh meats, and no cars for sale nor any gasoline to run them had there been. We were able to eat due to our yearly grown home vegetable garden, spurred on by my tiny delicate mother and grandmother. All males able to walk/talk were drafted, but we all strove as mightily as possible “for the cause,” which was actually really survival! There was no partisonship in those days, and Churchill’s frequent radio addresses held our hopes continually high. Would that a later generation had such dedication to love of freedom!

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