As promised, here is Banned by PBS: Muslims Against Jihad, in 8 parts. This is must-see viewing, folks. If you come to this site with any interest in gaining insight into the nature of the Islamic threat to the United States and all non-Muslim nations, then this is one of the best documentaries currently available. I would prefer to offer it in higher quality, but I did not capture these segments myself; beggars can’t be choosers.
Alternate source:
Muslims Against Jihad (on the Foehammer’s Anvil Vod:Pod)
Around 8 minutes into the first segment of the program is the Omar Bakri statement that I believe is one of the most important utterances from an Islamist that I have ever heard:
“The only way you can stop us, by give up your democracy. If you give up democracy and Freedom of Speech, and start to stop us and ban us the way you started to do, that the way you can stop us. But that mean we succeed. We say to the people: ‘You see? Democracy-Hypocrisy. We have always said so.’ You do not believe in democracy.”
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“That includes people who believe that human life is precious and at the same time they must kill infidels wherever they find them.”
Thats because the newer verse abrogate the older ones once Mo-bomb-ed got the upper hand. Its not that they contradict, its that it was a neccessity to be peaceful when Mo was weak.
“That also includes people who believe that they should take an eye for an eye and at the same time turn the other cheek.”
Thats easy too. Christians primarly follow the NT so its not a contradiction.
But its funny that the Bible gets more peaceful while the Qur’an got more violent. Something to think about.
Do you believe that the Qur’an was written by Allah?
Oh and as for that peaceful verse in the Qur’an you alluded to, that was directed towards the Children of Israel, not Muslims. Apologists always like to use that verse to claim the Qur’an is a peaceful book.
“So you dont believe your Qur’an and Hadiths”
I didn’t say that. I said that that we don’t believe in EVERYTHING in the Koran. There are parts in the Koran that contradict themselves. Anyone who believes in contradictory premises lacks common sense. That includes people who believe that human life is precious and at the same time they must kill infidels wherever they find them. That also includes people who believe that they should take an eye for an eye and at the same time turn the other cheek.
So you dont believe your Qur’an and Hadiths about Mo-bomb-ed? Wow, I am shocked.
So who founded Islamism which gets its ideology from the Qur’an and hadiths?
Prophet Muhammad / No
Forgot to ask if YOU believe the historical accounts.
So who founded Islam?
Yes, if you believe historical accounts.
So Mo-bomb-ed was an Islamist? Right?
Islamism
Obviously it does. I’m not the documentary’s producer or a FoxNews owner or that title never would have been used.
Does Jihad come from Islam or Islamism?
Foehammer,
Doesn’t the title “Muslims Against Jihad” contradict your contention that there is no difference between Islam and Islamism?
Yes, that was pointed out by Gramfan and Darth Sidious also. I’m now starting to understand why Robert Spencer has never appeared when Bill O’Reilly is hosting his own show and why Sean Hannity always runs practically screaming from uncovering any epiphanies for his viewership when it comes to Islam, jihad, etc.
Information warfare, money, power. It’s all in play isn’t it?
OT - but good reason for it I think you’ll agree.
Just got over from Sheik Yermami’s place. I believe you may be interested in this article.
” Saudi Prince Alwaleed ibn Talal owns 5.46 percent of Rupert Murdoch’s media conglomerate News Corp. This group includes Fox News, a media outlet not seen as “Muslim friendly”. ”
But they did change their reporting of last year’s French carbecues after Murdoch got a phone call from ibn Talal. Info on ownership is here (as is above quote):
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002958.html
Read - you’ll find that the situation may be much worse than just Newscorp. And Newscorp is much much more than just Fox News e.g in the UK that’s the Times, Sunday Times, Sun, News of the World. Also SKY. I believe it’s also at least one of the main New York newspapers. Newscorp is BIG worldwide.
Video: http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/videos/MAJ1.php