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By the way what are your religious views. Fark off buddy. Why do you ask what foehammers religion is? Because you are an idiot, no an asshole that loves to smear other religions with the deeds of islam is more precice. You slimy rat, I hope you end up with your pals the islamists. Are Jews, Christians killing people in the name of their religion? No. But you the anti Christian fascist which is far worse than the Jew fascist are willing to smear all other religions for islam. You are a piece of shit, can I say that foe? Ok you are again a piece of shit that apologizes for the islamofascists I say send you off to live with your islamist buddies asap. You want to know why we are in Iraq? Because we are going to swing south and take iran that’s why! And guess what islamist, we aren’t stopping for shit and we look forward to ramming your head into the bulkhead as soon as you show even a small desire to hurt us.

About 10 days ago that comment was made by a regular Anvil reader. I have quite intentionally chosen not to clean it up. I didn’t edit or delete it in the comments threads 10 days ago either, but I did ask politely at the time for the commenter in question to “take it back maybe a couple of notches”, and that was that: “Still, let’s try to be civil.”

The reaction I got to my reply was not what I was expecting; namely vexed anger and platitudes that were not at all justified. That overreaction stuck in the back of my mind all this time, so this morning I’m going to address what was wrong with this particular comment and put things on the shelf, so to speak.

It’s quite simple really. Personal attacks are usually over the line here. I make every attempt to frame my rebuttals to even the worst trolls as politely as I may and failing that I will just ban the offender. I always refrain from cussing like a sailor in my postings because that serves no purpose other than to make me look like a ranting fool, and that’s another thing wrong with that comment. I do not condone hatred on this site! I may be far more lenient than most bloggers in the anti-jihad circles because I’m one of the most inflammatory and politically incorrect around, but I can not possibly maintain any sort of legitimacy if I allow the comments here to devolve into a shouting match with blue words flying.

The Enemy is Islam — the political ideology of Islam. If you must hate something, then hate that. But individual Muslims I do not hate until they prove themselves willing to kill or maim innocent people. That I hate and despise, as any reasonable person should. But please understand that many Muslims are trapped inside the lie of Islam, and if they were ever given an Exit, they would take it. I have read enough materials on Islamic apostasy to know that.

I hope I’ve made myself clear enough here. Get angry, yes, by all means. But when angry, focus on the facts and do not simmer in the froth of hate and start lashing out wildly. I get attacked quite regularly here (and even elsewhere on the Net) by self-righteous, blind and often false “do-gooders” that think peace is won by doing nothing. I certainly do not want to ever give them some false hope that their libel is actually accurate. I hope my readers do not either.

Thank you for your consideration and continuing support.

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  1. 1 Chris  | country flag 
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    Jul 20th, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    It’s explosions like that that seem to steal credibility from our cause and give the libs and fanatics more fuel so they can say, “After all, those counter-jihadists are just a bunch of raving lunatics” as they pass laws to limit our free speech and throw us in jail, while increasing the flow of tax dollars for illegals, CAIR islamofascist agendas, and subsidized abortions.

    I think you do a great job of spreading truth and a message of freedom, and there is no doubt in my mind you’d be one of the few people really fighting for it whenever things hit the fan in a real big way.

  2. 2 Thomas Jackson  | country flag 
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    Jul 20th, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    There is no need to tolerate cvils or worse canards. As editor it is a tribute to you to tolerate those who might be on the edge but you do not have to put up with those you advise to pull it back a notch. Too many will ban those who do not tow the line, or worse make comments which cannot be rebutted, not because they are fiction but because the logic cannot be rebutted.

    Having said that while many who follow Islam are neither hard core nor true believers, too many sit aside and allow the radicals in the name of Islam to commit acts that humanity should not tolerate. We saw this in the Third Reich. History bears witness that for evil to triumph only requires enough good men to sit aside and do nothing. Unfortunately as we see in the wEST THERE APPEAR TO BE AS MANY GOOD mUSLIMS AS THERE ARE UNICORNS.

    Perhaps I am mistaken but I am reminded of the actions of the Japanese-Americans in WWII who despite being placed in concentration camps and having their property stolen by the government, rallied to the allied cause and formed the 442nd, the most decorated combat unit in American history.

    We do not see this happening today, worse we see CAIR and its allies ending the John Doe law in Congress.

    You are to be commended in allowing debate and reasonable dissent. You do not have to suffer trolls, morlocks and idiotarians.

  3. 3 R. Hartman  | country flag 
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    Jul 20th, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    Hi Foehammer.
    Not sure if it’s really on or off topic, but it relates to a discussion on 9/11 in (I think) the same thread. Came across it today, thanks to another Dutch libertarian (’Cannon’) who commented on an article on the Dutch libertarian blog Vrijspreker.nl. Not sure yet what to think of it, though it seems to be well documented. You’ll find it interesting reading, I’m sure: http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/pdf/futurecalling4.pdf
    Its introduction warns you’re not going to like it, and that’s an understatement. As I said, not sure yet what to think of it, but it’s going to make me do a lot of thinking again…

    Keep up the fight. And as you said, hard language may stir attention and awake people, foul language is going to turn them away.
    Be safe.

  4. 4 Foehammer  | country flag 
      
    Jul 20th, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    @Chris: Well, let’s hope it never gets to a point where I have to exchange pen for sword, but yes, you’re correct. I am not a good enemy to have on a variety of levels and I’m capable of adapting to just about anything. Perhaps I’ll be in a place to bend ears should the need arise, other than that, I’ll keep typing. :D

    R.Hartman: This is an interesting read so far, I’ve gone in a few pages. I’m immediately struck by quotes from Krauthammer (most will know him from FOX News roundtables) and Richard Perle (I’ve read a couple of his books) — and I think it’s fair to say that the author of ‘Future Calling’ is misleading in his usage of these quotes in the context of what he’s implying.

    Beware these “globalist” theories. Perle and Krauthammer are infamous conservatives and staunchly against Islamism from everything I’ve read or heard from them. I find it very unlikely that they would be supporting any initiative for globalization. What Krauthammer is more likely eluding to is just the usage of American power to preserve the safety of the free world and to do it without so much constant apology. Very easy to mislead a reader when interjecting his aggressive statements into the context of a “global” UN conspiratorial theme.

    Still, I always like to pick apart this kind of thing, so I’ll continue reading it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, just remember, beware the propaganda machine. It’s definitely churning hard the past few years and I’m wondering where the source is as much as this author is. In fact, it’s quite striking that he mentions the underground Communism influence in the very first few paragraphs. That coincides with a couple of theories I related here not long ago.

    Is Russia supporting the Islamization of Europe?

    I tend to both agree and disagree with what’s in this. The truth probably lies somewhere in-between. Like that’s new.

    :ponder_tb:

  5. 5 Sounder  | country flag 
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    Jul 20th, 2007 at 7:06 pm

    Foehammer, it is difficult to maintain conduct sometimes, but civility must be foremost, I believe. Otherwise, we fall into the abyss of the very ideology we are all fighting.

    What is primarily needed, is to continue to tell the truth about Islam, as you do, which anyone with an open mind can see and connect with, with clarity.

    Your work is indispensable.

  6. 6 Infidel Pride  | country flag 
      
    Jul 21st, 2007 at 3:05 am

    Related story, or maybe not: Overall, Americans have mixed opinions about US Muslims.

    Some progress since last year, but the fact that 57% of Americans under 40 would consider voting for a Muslim is troubling.

    Read it all.

  7. 7 Foehammer  | country flag 
      
    Jul 21st, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    Americans ignore opportunities to learn the truth, while even smart ones too often cultivate more distractions so that running from reality doesn’t feel like cowardice or sloth.

    This nation won’t wake up until we get a solid kick in the cajones, and yet I keep on typing…

    I’m going to blatantly “steal” part of that poll structure and put the questions here on the Anvil random polls.


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