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7 Responses to “Italians Stop Mosque”

1. 1 Sounder  |  
     
   Nov 2nd, 2007 at 7:50 pm

   Perhaps Italy is not as dhimmi as others?

   I wonder what the Islamic situation is in Italy. Anyone know?

2. 2 Always On Watch  |  
     
   Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:20 pm

   Sounder,
   I think that Italy has its fair share of problems with Muslims. Have you read Oriana Fallaci?

   Anyway, this display of anti-dhimmitude is a welcome bit of news in a swamp of discouragement.

   Europe is backed into a corner in many respects, but the people there have awakened. Now, how to get the leaders to do something?

3. 3 Sounder  |  
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   Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:39 pm

   Always On Watch, I have not read her work yet, but I did find this:

   “Why, she asked, did Khomeini compel women to ‘hide themselves, all bundled up,’ when they had proved their equal stature by helping to bring about the Islamic revolution?

   Khomeini replied that the women who ‘contributed to the revolution were, and are, women with the Islamic dress’; they weren’t women like Fallaci, who ‘go around all uncovered, dragging behind them a tail of men.’

   A few minutes later, Fallaci asked a more insolent question: ‘How do you swim in a chador?’

   Khomeini snapped, ‘Our customs are none of your business. If you do not like Islamic dress you are not obliged to wear it. Because Islamic dress is for good and proper young women.’

   Fallaci saw an opening, and charged in. ‘That’s very kind of you, Imam. And since you said so, I’m going to take off this stupid, medieval rag right now.’ She yanked off her chador.”

   

4. 4 Gramfan  |  
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   Nov 3rd, 2007 at 1:22 am

   Sounder,
   I agree with Always On Watch’s assessment of Fallaci. It was one of the first books I read on this subject. Worth it, but after all this ‘blogging you would probably have the gist of it by now.

   I hope the Italians do something about it. In a worst case scenario they have an awful lot to lose if we look at what the Taliban did to the statues of Buddha.

   Italy has about 75% of the greatest art the west has produced: I am lucky as I have seen a good deal of it. Since I am a Florentine by birth I just hope they all come together and defend their achievements: not just in art/architecture, but so many other areas as well.

5. 5 heroyalwhyness  |  
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   Nov 3rd, 2007 at 9:23 am

   
   Sounder, I would have given you a hundred +’s for that quote about Fallaci - if I could! Re-reading that is a great way to start my morning!

   Years ago, I read at Frontpagemag.com that
   Orianna published a “trilogy” of books examining the threat of jihad in detail: The Rage and the Pride, The Force of Reason, and Se Entrevista a Si Misma: El Apocalipsis [The Apocalypse].

   Orianna’s first two books in this trilogy were proved to be extraordinarily satisfying reads, so I hope the third book, “The Apocalypse” is translated soon.

   As another example of her work . . .here is her description of the wonders of tolerance in Al Andalus (pg 37 of The Force of Reason):

   And whoever believes in the myth of peaceful coexistance [snip]. . . should reread the stories of the burned convents and monasteries, of the profaned churches, of the raped nuns, of the Christian or Jewish women abducted to be locked away in their harems. He should ponder on the crucifixions of the Cordoba, the hangings of Granada, the beheadings of Toledo and Barcelona, of Seville and Zamora. (The beheadings of Seville, ordered by Mutamid: the king who used those severed heads, heads of Jews and Christians, to adorn his palace. The beheadings of Zamora, ordered by Almanzor: the vizier who was called the-patron-of-the-philosophers, the greatest leader Islamic Spain ever produced). Christ! Invoking the name of Jesus meant instant execution. Crucifixion, of course, or decapitation or hanging or impalement. Ringing a bell, the same. Wearing green, the colour exclusive to Islam, also. And when a Muslim passed by, every Jew and Christian was obliged to step aside. To bow. And mind to the Jew or the Christian who dared react to the insults of a Muslim. As for the much-flaunted detail that the infidel-dogs were not obliged to convert to Islam, not even encouraged to do so, do you know why they were not? Because those who converted to Islam did not pay taxes. Those who refused, on the contrary, did.

   for Fallaci Her words, her charm, her influence will live on forever!

6. 6 Sounder  |  
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   Nov 3rd, 2007 at 5:51 pm

   FH, this is off this topic but:

   Realists should go read this article at Gates of Vienna

   NO LEFTIES, it could be hazardous to your health.

7. 7 Always On Watch  |  
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   Nov 3rd, 2007 at 7:31 pm

   Fallaci could really turn a phrase, couldn’t she?

   I recall her use of “sons of Allah” in her The Rage and the Pride.

   That was one lady who lived by “I will not submit.” Long live that spirit!

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