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Islam and the West: The Clash has Begun

Teddy bear woes? Thoughts from Economist.com with a couple of my own interjected for better measure:

FOR anyone who is labouring to improve Christian-Muslim relations, or stop civilisations clashing, it is a painful setback: a well-intentioned Western woman who has volunteered her services as a teacher in a land stricken by conflict and poverty, only to find herself denounced by a local colleague and incarcerated in horrible conditions.

Gillian Gibbons, a 54-year-old teacher from Liverpool, was sentenced on Thursday November 29th to 15 days in prison for “insulting religion”, after allowing her pupils at a school in Khartoum, Sudan’s capital, to name a teddy bear Muhammad. She had invited a seven-year-old girl to bring in her teddy and then encouraged the class to vote on a name for the toy.

When the story broke in the British press this week, it was widely reported that she might face up to 40 lashes, or six months in jail, if she were found guilty on all three of the charges laid against her. British diplomats are now trying to secure Ms Gibbons’ early release. The incident happened in September and caused no protest among parents at the time. At one point the affair seemed to be spinning out of control as groups of angry men gathered outside the police station where she was held.

For Muslims in Britain and other democracies, the story was a deeply depressing one: so many of its features, including the fact that it happened in the run-up to Christmas, seemed almost calculated to resonate with British tabloid readers, who may not know much about Sudan or Islam (or any other faith) but have strong feelings about teddies, tiny tots and motherly teachers.

In more elevated western circles, it is becoming commoner to hear the view that Islam itself (rather than any extremist interpretations of the faith) is posing a challenge to western values that must be resisted. And if that view becomes more respectable, so too does a defensive Muslim reaction, which is often tinged with geopolitical grievance.

And are we to allow fear of this “defensive reaction” to the fact that persons like myself, shouting from the rooftops, are now being take more and more seriously — are we to allow this fear to control us? I think not.

It’s time to stand up and point the finger at Islam, ladies and gentlemen. The new Nazis have arrived on the scene and they mean to destroy the future for your children. Wake up! Freedom came at a high cost and we had better be prepared to continue to pay the ‘toll’ every so often, or we will no longer possess such freedom.

To observers who know Sudan, the whole affair seems to have become entangled with the broader stand-off between the government in Khartoum and the Western countries, including Britain, that have pushed for the United Nations to intervene in the appalling humanitarian crisis in Darfur. All diplomatic exchanges between the Sudanese government and Western ones, whether they concern refugees or teddy bears, take place against that background.

But some articulate western Muslims have been emphasising that they share the general horror over the affair, and their dismay over the Sudanese authorities’ reaction. Many stressed that the treatment of Ms Gibbons was at odds with a Koranic injunction to treat visitors hospitably. “Sudan’s official response to this incident is the exact opposite of the model that Muslims are supposed to emulate,” said Firas Ahmed, deputy editor of Islamica, a glossy magazine. Musharraf Hussain, a well-known imam from the English Midlands, said Ms Gibbons had set out to help Sudanese children with “great enthusiasm and sincerity” and it was embarrassing for British Muslims to see her being punished for making an unintentional cultural mistake.

Excuse me please, but can someone think about this and then ask themselves: “When was the last time a ‘cultural mistake’ in a non-Muslim nation cost someone their freedom and almost their lives?”

Please comment if you can think of any answers to that question. Thank you. Please continue reading.

Perhaps the hardest question that Muslims in the West face from sceptical fellow-citizens is whether they are prepared in any circumstances to defend the harsh penalties, such as lashing and stoning, which the sacred texts of Islam prescribe, in particular for sexual offences, or blaspheming against the faith.

Here’s a harder question: “Are we as Westerners prepared to own the reality that most Muslims will support and defend instances of Sharia/Islamic Law over our own democratic laws?”

This is simply a matter of time and Muslim population explosion mixed with their seizing of more and more economic power worldwide. Do you really think that the Islamic terror isn’t for a purpose other than just sowing the seeds of Chaos?

Tariq Ramadan, an influential Muslim philosopher, has called for an indefinite moratorium on capital and corporal punishment, using elaborate theological arguments to support his view that these penalties have resulted in horribly cruel treatment for vulnerable people, including women and the poor. Scholars in the Muslim heartland do not go far enough when they say the necessary conditions for the application of these traditional punishments are “almost never” fulfilled, Mr Ramadan has argued. Some westerners (including France’s President Nicolas Sarkozy, in the days when he was interior minister) taunted Mr Ramadan over the use of the word moratorium: did that mean stoning might resume in the future? But to traditional scholars, Mr Ramadan is clearly going too far. The gap he is trying to straddle is already a wide one, and the story of Ms Gibbons suggests that it risks growing even wider.

Outlaw Islam. That would be a start on the right road for a change.

 


 

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6 Responses to “Islam and the West: The Clash has Begun”


  1. 1 Sounder  | country flag 
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    Dec 1st, 2007 at 5:12 pm


    And if that view becomes more respectable, so too does a defensive Muslim reaction, which is often tinged with geopolitical grievance.

    “The Clash Has Begun”. Indeed it has.

    As for some grievance.

    The Canadian Muslim Congress launches complaints over Mark Steyn’s article, “The Future Belongs to Islam”. Complaints were submitted to Human Rights Commissions in B.C.

    In the release, the CIC labels Steyn’s article as “flagrantly Islamophobic.”

    So more Islamophibia fueled by Muslims themselves. What’s new. :furious_tb:

  2. 2 Sounder  | country flag 
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    Dec 1st, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    The clash of clashes to come:

    “There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe — without swords, without guns, without conquests. The fifty million Muslims of Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.” …Colonel Gadhafi

    For those who are not the least bit concerned about a few percent Muslim population in the west, think hard:

    We’re the ones who will change you,” the Norwegian imam Mullah Krekar told the Oslo newspaper Dagbladet in 2006. “Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children.” As he summed it up: “Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours.”

    I would consider that, a threat. :flush_koran:

  3. 3 Athos  | country flag 
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    Dec 1st, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    Except for the timidity of western leaders who quietly shuffle along in the functional dhimmitide of oil-addiction, the West is beginning — beginning — to connect the dots. My take here from a Girardian pov.

  4. 4 ISLAMSFORLOSERS  | country flag 
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    Dec 1st, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    My question is why are infidels going to the ummah at all? To bring education to these lunatics? Forget it-they want to live in the muck and the mire. Let them-it’s the will of their god that they be miserable. Time and time again they have shown their hatred for infidels no matter what they try to do for them-a 1400 year history of this mentality should be enough to convince any thinking person that cesspoolia should be off limits no matter what one’s intentions are. Infidels should just let them be-who are we to overcome the course set for these losers by their god? He knows best after all, right? :furious_tb:

  5. 5 coldjoint  | country flag 
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    Dec 4th, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    the last sentence in the article is the way to go. i fail to see why the cult of islam itself can not be declared a terrorist org. just look at their manual the koran. once and for all america should decide to do this . a national referemdum for an amendment might surprise a lot of people when they see, by a secret ballot, that america wants islam to leave this and will force thwem to go legally.

  6. 6 Johnathan Cross  | country flag 
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    Dec 6th, 2007 at 6:12 pm

    I’ve mentioned it before, but I can’t help but fear that the only honest wake-up call for the Infidels will be an even more-grevious attack on a Western Icon.

    I can’t place where I read the comment - I’m sure somewhere on Foehammer - about more Western Muslims saying that the Islam of Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Iran etc. are all mistaken and have misinterpreted the scriptures.

    Wait, are you saying that the BIRTHPLACE of your faith is misinterpreting scripture that they practically share with milk at the breast?

    And for those who might want to argue about Christianity’s disagreement with Judaism, Christianity split for a reason. Christians are not “Western Jews” or “Enlightened Jews,” Christians are Christians; they believe Jesus fulfilled ancient Jewish prophecy while modern Jews believe he is yet to come. They don’t claim to be enlightened jews.

    Anyone who claims to be muslim aligns himself with the tribes still crawling across the sands of the birthplace Islam, period.

    There’s no denunciation of those who interpret the faith in a way blatantly spelled out (and not nullified through peaceful fulfillment ) in the holiest of books to the muslim people.

    Sudan has been muslim for nearly as long as muslim has been muslim.

    “Western Muslims” are like members of any faith who pick and choose which verses to follow and which not. There are levels of following the almighty in his leading, but to denounce entire pieces of the “holy” scripture as created by the devil makes the entire validity of the Qu’ran as suspect.

    We the Infidels live among blind Muslims, as politically correct as our weak politicians, and as dangerous in their inaction as the true-believing Muslism are for their heinous crimes.

    May we survive the deluge to come.

    J Cross


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