The following interview with former Governor of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura, is from September 26th, 2006. Interestingly enough it was done while he was on tour supporting the Texas Gubernatorial candidate Kinky Friedman during a stop in San Antonio, Texas.
Jesse questions the “official” 9/11 Story in an interview with Alex Jones.
You may safely consider this a lead in to one of my own upcoming editorials.
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I am fascinated by how you suddenly jump to conclusions about my stance on 9-11. Is there something you’re not telling my readers that perhaps you’d like to?
I rarely say something like this, but your stupidity is appalling and tiresome. Go troll somewhere else or I will remove you forcibly.
Is that clear enough for you? Your slavish adherence to Islam is a joke, your bludgeoning comments-style unveils your bile for what it is and always will be. I am sick of dealing with Islam and its followers. You would infringe upon my rights to say what I believe the very second Islam were to reign supreme over any government. I am not alone in understanding the true nature of people like you. I hope you are prepared for the war that is coming as a result of such epiphanies.
The very innocence of my country is soiled by the continued appeasement of not only Islam but the spoiled rich that use you as another tool to fuel a world government. Simply because a simpleton like yourself is unaware of such facts doesn’t make the reality of it all any less. Who could expect you to understand? This is exactly how the evil persists.
PS.
Just to make it clear, whomever thinks that US government is behind 9/11 should have their lobotomy reversed.
@Muslims Against Sharia: Considering the example you set for your “religion” by coming here to my blog and intimating that I am a “moron” in a ridiculous post such as that, I think it’s quite clear how anyone might have the good sense to realize that it is not only Islam that is spreading evil in this world of ours, while at the same time wishing to see more and more people free-thinking and not under the oppressive reign of false cults. That is all I have to say on that matter at this time, but you had to go and ask the question, didn’t you?
What kind of moron would blame 9/11 on the government and advocate eradication of Islam at the same time?
Just found some posts and links on a local ‘blog.
Is this what you mean?
(sorry for the long post).
If religion wasn’t a masked form of oppressive brainwashing, targeted at the dimwitted majority who foolishly fear their own mortality, I would say God bless our Chinese brethren.
Finally there is a proud voice in the world willing to stand up to the Imperialistic American Empire controlled by the Zionists and fronted by the Illuminati families.
May China crush these poorly disguised attacks on its peaceful rise. Imperialists, including the one they call Bolt, see no shame in suddenly taking up the Tibetan cause even while the Tibetans hands are covered in Han blood. Just a couple of months ago, these people couldn’t tell a Tibetan from any other immigrant they so despised. A pox on them, and all the future generations they spawn.
They see no irony in replacing a benign ruling government, with a senile ex-CIA man in robes. He represents an institution that brought over it’s false beliefs from India and subsumed the indigenous Tibetans. While the indigenous Tibetans suffered in dire conditions, these men in robes pranced around their fairly tale castles in the most unseemly manner.
And you people say China committed cultural genocide? Why don’t you read a book that isn’t the bible (or any other material clearly filled with lies *cough* 9/11 Commission Report *cough*).
And when our Chinese masters rightfully take over the world, with their ideals of peace, love and harmony, I will gladly roll the red carpet for them in Canberra. All hail our Chinese overlords.
Terrorlol of Chinatown (Reply)
Heed my warning.
The Illuminati are rattled, the winds of change have caught them off guard. They didn’t expect valiant progressive idealists such as Kevin Rudd and Barack Obama to capture the collective imagination of their people.
Desperately trying to cling to a present that is clearly dieing, they attempt to scare the masses through their proxies (the one they call Bolt, Fox, News Ltd, the fat man with glasses on Insiders) spreading half truths and finding faults where there are none.
Fear not, for their year of terror, tyranny and oppression is at an end. People of the world unite behind Barack Obama, who will end the Imperialistic Empire and finally silence two key Illuminati bloodlines, Bush and Clinton, both as sinister as the last. May he slay the old man in his way, whose crusty exterior perfectly mirror his regressive, backward looking, divisive dogma he espouses.
The fact that spell check, a repressive tool of the Zionists used to shackle the intelligence of the masses, refuses to recognise Barack Obama speaks volumes.
People of the world unite!
Terrorlol of Osama’s Malibu home
http://www.cesnur.org/2005/mi_illuminati_en.htm
http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/
According to all that I have learned, the Trade Center buildings were a ‘money pit’ for many companies, costing far more to run and eventually renovate than most were willing to keep paying.
The buildings were designed to withstand multiple jet airliner hits, not just one.
The “pancake effect” that we all hear about is a load of baloney — there were no pancaked floors when those buildings collapsed. What was left was rubble with the core heavy-steel beams also mysteriously collapsed, despite the fact that no ‘pancaking’ could occur with that central framework short of demolition. Many documentaries just simply ignore that “little” flaw in the pancaking theory.
So, do we believe our own eyes or do we continue to be misdirected by sleight of hand on a grand scale?
There’s much more, but I will address this in more detail soon in an actual article. I’m sure I just woke more than a few of you up just now as it is by my comments.
Fasten your seat belts.
I saw that article Gramfan posted a day ago.
Now the two badboys of al qaida are supporting Iran bashing and
are convinced Global warming is real ?
Zawahri and BinLaden are either dead or on a beach somwhere with
brandnew faces and swiss bank accounts full of fiat currency laughing
at the words the nwo has put in their mouths.
Glugzy
just read your comment. For some reason, although I am subscribed, it did not come through - no matter really in a way.It has happened: it’s done.
What do people think of this?
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3534715,00.html
The World Trade Towers were designed to take an impact of a 707. That was how they were designed in the 70’s and that included Asbestos, that the environmentalists had removed. If you are familiar with Naval Aviation then you will know that fire or other metals especially titanium melt steel as a matter of fact the SOP for a class 4 fire is jettison overboard, period. Why, because it will burn its way through the flight deck and through to the bottom of the Carrier faster than grease through a goose. If you have ever been on a construction site you will know that the pancake effect is well known, the effect, it’s called gravity and it doesn’t always need fire to start it. Inshallah or peace be unto you.
Gramfan
Thank you so much for taking the time to read and to post thoughtfully,
the dialog was refreshing .
As i said before i wish more of my country men & women would do the same. As far as follow the money trails of the presidential candidates
well i have studied them a bit. Those money trails always lead bac to people involved in the Tri lat commission or the CFR or Bilderberg Group if one looks deep enough you will find them.
It is my belief that it wont matter who we have in office the agenda
will be carried out. The thing about American democracy is we might(thats a big might for me believe) elect our presidents but we don’t select them. It is my opinion you cant get into that crowd unless they have you bought and paid for. Guys like
Ron Paul who have some cool ideas about finances don’t get heard because their ideas seem too radical but we are in need of alot of radical here i think.When a guy says we need to get rid of central banks the income tax and the IRS and start having congress issue our own money again, people call that guy crazy. Even though thats what our founding fathers intended for us to have, a Constitutional Republic not a Democracy.All of this stuff The New World Order,
Islamisation of the west,9/11,Global warming, knowing whats behind all of this stuff can almost make a person go coo coo sometimes.
This forum here at the Anvil is a great place because even when we don’t agree the fact that we can talk and and tempers don’t flare
lets me know there ARE people out there who really care about whats going on.Talking with people in everyday life here sometimes is very frustrating most Americans don’t know what fiat currency is (even though they spend their day dying to get it lol ) or that the 16 th amendment was never ratified.So when you try to explain to them even in a nice way that they live in a rented apartment on the top floor of a house of cards sitting on a pin balanced on a string tied between two firecrackers they get mad or just shutdown.The only way i can see to overcome most of this stuff is to let as many people know as possible and that can be very hard most times.
So to all who read here and to all who write here PEACE BE WITH YOU.
Glugzy
I am not going into another treatise on buildings. There is sufficient info posted here already. It’s a waste of time to continue. The fact that I asked you if you had designed buildings was quite fair and valid.
I think there are several issues here that are being “combined” - for want of a better word.
a) 9/11,
b) One world Government
c) Militant islam and global domination.
Firstly I will explain that the info I posted was compatible with the opinions of US engineers (some who had done the inquiry into the Pentagon attack), and engineers here. Obviously I am unable to name them, hence the links.
Those first hand experiences afford me not as credible of an opinion as a structural engineer but more than someone who was merely friends with two engineers.
Errr,,friends?? One of those “friends” is my husband! He has been a structural engineer for almost 40 years, and specializes in impact analysis! You have the right to ignore this, of course!
Secondly I am glad we can agree on global warming. It’s the biggest con of the century. I am half-expecting to be charged for the amount of air that sits on the block my house is on - nothing would surprise me!
This is “science” based not on provable fact but consensus, namely the IPCC who no doubt have an agenda.
Thirdly you mention that some of the hijackers are still alive. Yes, I have heard that also. It has been mentioned on local ‘blogs, always by muslims. I suppose we will never know.
In fact, and this aids your point although I haven’t checked it personally, local muslims here claim OBL isn’t on the FBI “Most Wanted List”. I find that very surprising! (then again would he be on the CIA list? I am not familiar with the break-down of duties of these 2 institutions because I am not American.)
Fourthly: we seem at odds re the consensus of opinion of exactly what happened on 9/11.
I guess this is another thing we will never know for sure.It’s a controversial topic and some people will believe one consensus of opinion, and some will believe another consensus of opinion.
That something unusual is going on globally is something I agree with.
Exactly what it is I am not sure of.
However I am pretty sure that the US is in big trouble. If the sauds change to the Euro things are going to get very messy indeed over in your country and it will have a domino effect everywhere else,no doubt.
If Obama wins your election,and IMHO,or gut-feeling, I believe he will, then we are all in BIG trouble.
Perhaps you would be better off following the money trails involved in your elections. Just a thought.
Once again Gramfan thank you for the dialogue.
Let’s get to it shall we.
1. Please explain the planes without mentioning Skywalker Ranch.
Who sent them? Who flew them?
Response: 1
I’m not going to explain the planes or who sent them, those facts unless we have a legitimate investigation into 9/11 we may never know.
Furthermore only a dam fool would try to say that planes didn’t hit those buildings when thousands were witness to it.
I don’t think I said “planes did not hit the buildings” in any of my posts.
But I will say 9 of the 19 hijackers have been reported to be very much alive by credible sources like the BBC,CNN if they are to be believed.
Guys like Waleed Al Shehri left the US a year before 9/11 attended flight school in Daytona beach is now a WORKING PILOT for Saudi Arabian Airlines
has been on countless TV interviews radio and print media stating that he was not involved and more importantly that he is not dead.
The man does say that that is in fact his name and his picture the FBI posted as one of the infamous 19.
Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
2. How many buildings have you designed? Have you calculated stresses and strains? There is a world of difference between being in construction and being a person who designs and analyzes buildings.
The people I was with have doctorates in their fields and I don’t mean the ones you buy online! Between them they have designed underground railways, multi-storey buildings, power stations, bridges - you name it.
Response: 2
If you are going to have a civil debate please refrain from questions like this, it’s a lame attempt to discredit at best also these same things can be turned on you and frankly they are a waste of time.
lol How many buildings have you designed? Have you calculated stresses and strains? There is a world of difference between being a layperson in Australia
And someone who designs buildings! Structural engineering doctorates don’t assimilate themselves in your brain through osmosis.
Secondly have your two engineering friends gathered the structural data from WTC and spent the time calculating it themselves?
Or did they just give you an opinion shot from the hip
If they have calculated this data where is it so I can look at it? Because I examine everything I can get my hands on.
Once again here is http/:www.ae911truth.org they HAVE done the stress tests and the calculations multiples of times and it is all there for anyone to read.
They have at this moment 317 engineering professionals and 1325 supporters.
When tackling a subject as sensitive and as controversial as this, they have done an excellent job at leaving speculation aside just presenting facts.
They are not selling anything accusing anyone they just have legitimate questions and for the record they approached the 9/11 commission and members of the federal government to discuss this in a forum open to the press and public set a date rented a place and no one from the government showed.
As for my experience I will give that point to ya, it doesn’t measure up to a structural engineering degree.
But I will say this; a week of hands on is worth more than a month with your nose in a book. Facts are I have spent months on end erecting, tying, cutting, welding, bolting structural steel and just as long pouring concrete. There were days when we poured for 28 hrs straight with cement trucks lined up the street as far as the eye could see, just to get a floor segment finished so we could keep up with schedule. Those first hand experiences afford me not as credible of an opinion as a structural engineer but more than someone who was merely friends with two engineers.
3. There was a website run by Muslims called the Magnificent 19. It is no longer online. Guess who it was about?
Response: 3
As I have stated there is no way to know what was going on inside those planes multiple scenarios could come to mind
And I am not comfortable with scenarios=speculation and the media gives us plenty of that.
The buildings fell in 8.5 seconds that’s faster than free fall speed.
4. This is incorrect. The time for tower one was 11 seconds, and for tower 2 it was 9 seconds. This compares with the theoretical time of 9.2 seconds for an object to fall the 417 meter height to fall to the ground.
From this site: http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
Response:
Touché’ Gramfan it is true I was 1/2 a second off on the speed at which tower 2 fell but what I was saying with that post is that the
Pancake theory does not hold water. After reading this article from NIST you posted that is also what they are saying about the pancake theory
It is not possible.
As for NIST I have read everything they have on 9/11 they haven’t published anything new since 2006 on the subject as far as technical data.
It’s also a little odd that you would quote from a government website to tell the truth and incriminate the government about the inadequacies of the government?
They have been busted time and time again by independent studies for manipulating their input data to favor a desired outcome.
Link: http://www.911review.com/articles/ryan/lies_about_wtc.html
and a PDF you should read also : journalof911studies.com/volume/200612/NIST-WTC-Investigation.pdf
Also your ending statement here: Now if you had said that Bush conspired with the Saudis to perpetrate this, maybe it could be a consideration. But your knowledge of construction is a little dodgy.
On one hand you quote a government website to refute the things I have said and then on the other you say that there might be implications at the very highest levels of that same government on the subjects we are discussing. It is a known fact that as 9/11 was unfolding George Bush sr
and Bin Laden’s brother were in a Carlyle group meeting in the U S watching the events on TV together. You say my knowledge of construction is dodgy but the train of thought you have displayed in this post is not laid on such a firm foundation. I see that you have examined facts and I commend you for that you have done more than most Americans ever thought of doing which is shame on them. I t is my belief that the Bush’s did conspire with the Saudi’s and they have played their part
but they are not the ones behind the scenes pulling the strings. Those people are the banking families
that Foehammer pointed out in his previous post .
They are the ones who have the inexhaustible resources to pull something like this off.
They are the ones forming a One World Government .
Gorge Bushes will come and go these people have been around for close to two hundred years.
They have an agenda 9/11 was part of it .
It is my firm belief from all the evidence I have looked at that yes planes hit the trade towers
But in no way could they have brought down those buildings. That was controlled demolition.
I could sit here and post more Articles to counter the points you have made but all that information is on the links I have provided Plus I have put twelve hours in at my dodgy construction job and I am falling asleep as I type. Once again www.ae911truth.org these are good regular everyday Americans like you and me. Don’t discredit them because they don’t have a .gov on their web address.
If you really do care about the truth then read this please.
Also you wrote : Wasn’t this the 2nd attempt at the WTC , the first on Clinton’s watch?
Once again as I have said on earlier posts Democrat? Republican? they have been the same party for the last 40 years in this country!
This is yet another sham by the banking elite to sidetrack the American people from the real issues at hand like immigration Gun control and the big one NAFTA!
Also you wrote : BTW as an aside do you believe in the facts on global warming?
Global warming is a sham, the science is just not there . When moons on distant planets of the solar system that were once ice are melting it is because the sun is getting hotter period.
Science has shown through core sample that the earth has gone through these changes many times in the past as well as polar shifts also. I have been emailing Foehammer for years that this is yet another reason for the banking elites to create a carbon footprint tax. And what do ya know two months ago
In the press you start to hear about a green tax , this is a tax that will be on almost every living human
On the planet not just the U S but worldwide every man woman and child.
The revenues from the green tax alone will be unrivaled only by the profits from the central banks.
Once again I thank you for this opportunity and dialogue I have tried my best to honor that which is your personal opinion with my rebuttal . May peace be with you all and to all a goodnight.
Post Script: For those of you that don’t have time to read all these facts about 9/11
There is a dvd called “9/11 mysteries” it is the most honest one I have seen that just deals with facts.
If any of you can get your hands on it I suggest you do so you will not be sorry.
This is a good debate. Please keep it going but keep it civil.